Astrology, Self-Discovery, and Understanding Your Role in the Cosmic Revolution with Madi Murphy

Get in, Feelers – We're going to the Cosmic Zone! In this week's EA meeting join us for a juicy astrology chat with Madi Murphy, an intuitive astrologer and founder of CosmicRx. We dive into:

• Madi's journey coming home to herself and building a spiritual business on her terms
• How to embody ANY of the 12 archetypes, not just your sun sign!
•  Tapping into the first key, Why Not Me!? (represented by Aries) and why many creatives and entrepreneurs struggle with this energy
• Looking in the mirror to have love for all the zodiac signs: what it means when a certain astrological sign may rub you the wrong way!
• Witnessing Pluto in Aquarius and the crumbling of oppressive systems: how to take part in the Cosmic Revolution
• Friendship astrology and how to use your 11th house to call in your soul family

Connect with Madi:

• Buy In The Cosmic Zone
• Follow Madi on Instagram
• Tune in to CosmicRx Radio
• Work with Madi or book her for a reading!

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Episode outline:

00:00 Intro + What's In Your Cup!?

00:21 Meet the Hosts and Special Guest

06:22 Introducing Madi Murphy and Her Book

10:55 Madi Murphy's Journey to CosmicRx

15:05 Using Astrology as a Tool for Personal Growth

37:22 Social Change and Cosmic Rebellion

43:04 Astrology's Role in Personal and Social Transformation

50:17 Friendship Compatibility in Astrology

56:52 Understanding your Chiron to Tap Into Your Healer Energy

01:02:14 Calling In Aligned Community With Your 11th House

01:05:38 How to Find Madi

Transcript

Empaths Anonymous: 0:00

Welcome to Empath Anonymous, a space for dreamers, healers, and feelers. Navigating the fine line between putting yourself first and holding space for others. If you struggle with balancing your needs while still supporting your tribe, then you're in the right place. Welcome to the support group. Hello and welcome back to Empaths Anonymous podcast. I'm Crystina. I'm Danie. And today we have my favorite mystical mentor friend, baddie. Insert all of the words there on our podcast. Madi Murphy, intuitive astrologer and the founder of Cosmic Rx Madi Murphy. But before we get into that, what's in your cup? I have basically finished my coffee and I made a mistake. I'm not bringing down my water because now I am parched and I feel like I have a cotton mouth. Like the dryness of like the roof of your mouth and all that? Yeah. That's not very, what's in your cup of me forgetting my water. My emotional support water bottle is currently being deep cleaned and so that's the issue there. I shared with Christina earlier that emotionally I had a gut punch because where I work, we have a new administrator and that, a new administrator is very lovely and I think it's gonna be a great and necessary change. Um, but I got a welcome back to school email today in the morning and I was like, no, because I'm not quite ready for all of that. Right. Um, I appreciate like the gumption there and I appreciate like. Her being like, Hey, like we're gonna start fresh and like it's gonna be something different. And I think that it's necessary, but like, let's get on the same page. Yeah. And I love that very much, but at the same time I am like, no. It was just like a reminder that it's getting closer and closer. And as much as I love my job, like I do. Love summer break too. So that is really like kind of how my morning went. But overall I think I'm doing well. I think you know, I. I'm struggling a little bit in my motherhood journey, trying to figure out sometimes what is the right and wrong thing to do. So sometimes I feel like I can overcompensate and maybe not set boundaries that I need to set with my child who's very much in the mindset that she's gonna test those boundaries. She's in two different households. And so I think things are being done differently in both households as one would expect. And so just trying to come to terms with that and making time for myself to like actually dive into like parenting books which I have so many downloaded on my audible, and it's like, am I gonna start any. Hopefully one day. But yeah, I think I'm, well you have 12 credits to use. I do. Yeah. Well, I used two of them for the, we were liars of it all, but girl, that's intensities, so we'll get into that later on. But What's in your cup, sister? That's actually what I was gonna say. Oh, good. Is that my brain is, uh, consumed with that because we blind watched this. Mm-hmm. We were trying to watch something wholesome guys. We were trying to watch raising Helen, and we couldn't find it and like it's nowhere it was gonna be like we had to buy it and Danie's like, well, I already. Own it on DVD, like, why am I gonna buy it again? So we didn't, and she was like, fuck it, let's just start this show. And it's, we are liars. And it from the thing, like you can tell that there's something like mystery creepy dey about it. Yes. But you're not really sure what, what, but it, but it just looks like it's gonna be this like wholesome, cute teen romance. Teen romance. They live on like an island off of Nantucket. Like very, just like we're gonna watch some rich people get into some shit. Yeah. Is what I thought. Right. And I'm not gonna spoil it for anybody because episode eight just come correct. You know what I'm saying? Like do not be on the like verge of an emotional breakdown when you watch that show. Let me just put it that way so bad. It's really good though. I would venture to say fantastic show. Yeah, it's probably one of the best like teen or like young adult book to movie adaptations that I've seen. No book to show adaptations or just shows in general that I've seen in a very, very long time. Yeah, I appreciated very much the casting. I think the casting was on point, so fantastic. So that I did use two of my credits to then now listen to the audiobook. So we're gonna see if there's any like, fantastic differences. I know that there, the details are some, yeah, they're just like, it's. It is kind of young adult teen romance. Mixed in with mystery, but with a choice. But it's also like this elitist supremacist, you know? It's just like a lot of moving parts and I really would recommend it. Yeah. To anyone, but just, it's not what you think it's gonna be. It's not. So give it a chance. Get through like the first two episodes, I think so. That's good advice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I loved, and I clocked this very early on, just the color theory. And it, so like pay attention to that. I'm not gonna say what it all means.'cause I definitely was looking that up until one in the morning. But, and I honestly, if I had the mental capacity, I would love to do like a deep dive on it, on my business account. Like talking about like from a PR perspective. Ooh. Like what color psychology does for viewership or how it tells the story. Mm-hmm. Um,'cause that is something that when you go to school for PR or any kind of like integrated marketing communications as my major was they talk about color theory a lot. It's why certain brands have certain colors. Coca-Cola's red for a reason. Yeah. McDonald's. Right. Makes you hungry. Yes. So there was a lot of color theory going on there, which I think is so interesting. Yeah. But overall, even like in fantastic interior design, like it's very important'cause it evokes like feelings and emotions. Like when you see certain colors, that's why you wouldn't choose like certain colors for certain rooms. Right, right. Yeah. We love that. I digress. Yeah. We could talk about colors all the time. I literally, we talk about shows all the time. We could talk about which we will. Yeah. Find us on Empaths React, we're gonna react to some shows. So absolutely, we'll talk about that There some new ones and some old ones. There's lots of movies that Crystina hasn't seen and there's lots of shows that I haven't seen. We're like opposite in that way. Right? Well, here today what we are getting into though, bring it back around, around the towns we are talking about in the cosmic zone, embodying the 12 astro archetypes to unleash your genius and activate your authentic self with, as I said my mystical mentor and coach and big sis Madi Murphy. Congratulations, miss Madi. What a feat. This is her first book and. Has made her a published author and I think she's nourished it so much. And she has grown her community of cosmic baddies to the point where now she's including like real time, like testimonials in the book and like right, how basically aligning with your cosmic purpose is allowing you to live a more aligned life. And so we obviously get into that in the episode. Um, we chat with her call outs as well. We both flipped to our. Sun sign chapters, right? Yeah. Um, and we both were immediately called out, which I know I always wanna state when it comes to astrology, because I think that the greater popular culture just focuses on your sun sign. Mm-hmm. But just as a reminder for people who maybe like beginners in astrology, you don't know a lot about astrology. You are every single. Yeah, so don't think that you're just your sun sign or just your big three, or even just your personal six. You are 12 signs, whether it's in your planets or in your houses. You have every single sign in your chart. Mm-hmm. And it shows up some way in your life in. Every single aspect. Right? So I think that's what I really appreciated about the book, is it's not just saying like, oh, this is your sign focus on this. Mm-hmm. It's saying these are the different archetypes for every single sign, and this is how you embody it. So it can be applicable to anybody. Yeah. There's the journal prompts. There's stuff to fill out and so we get into it in the episode where it's like, if you feel like there's a sign that you either don't get along with, you don't, like Madi says in the episode, like, dive deeper into that because it could be a part of yourself that you're. Avoiding that you don't like or that you just don't know very well. Right. And I was like, that's a gut punch. Thanks so much. Right. Um,'cause I want to be able to dislike a sign if I want to, but that's not fair because it, like Christina's saying, they all exist in your chart. I just love the conversation. I enjoy Madi very much. If you are very new to astrology, I still consider myself very new to astrology. I mean, the practice is years and years and years of work, to be able to know as much as Madi does and become a coach, and become a teacher. Um, if you're confused, I would highly, highly, highly. Recommend booking a reading with her. It was fantastic. She records the whole thing because it's virtual and then she'll send it to you after to like dive deeper.'cause when I tell you I was scribbling notes as fast as I possibly freaking could when I had my reading, it was fantastic. Yeah. And it's like even just with that, it's like barely scratching the surface. So Right. Once you figure out more and how it makes sense to your life, it starts to be less woo woo and more just like pattern recognition. It lock unlocks everything. Yes, girl. Speaking of keys, you know what I'm saying? Her podcast has been my Monday ritual for probably like two years now. So all of the things, I'm so grateful mm-hmm. To have. Met her in this lifetime and her be in my orbit. She's currently one of my clients. I'm doing her book tour, which is, makes this even more exciting that we could have her on the podcast at this time. Mm-hmm. She's just a beautiful human and, uh, I hope that you guys really connect with her, follow her on socials or the book. We're going to put a link to do so. Mm-hmm. And what I love about hay House slash Penguin Random House is they give you many places to buy it. Mm-hmm. I feel like sometimes they just push Amazon and, uh, if you're on the same wave that we're on, uh, fuck Jeff Bezos so you can, I think they have Powells on there. They have Barnes and Noble, like they have like all these different places and you can even find them in certain local bookshops. Mm-hmm. And even like some metaphysical bookshops are gonna be carrying it, which is really exciting. I love that. Yeah. So you have options of where you want to spend your dollars, your 18.98, I believe it is. But yeah, thank you to Madi for taking the time to come and talk to us and just being such a light in our lives. And without further ado, let's get into it. today I am so excited about the guests that we're having on because she is a mentor, a big sis Madi Murphy. She has read both Danie and I's Charts in the past, so we're excited to get her on the pod. Madi Murphy is an intuitive astrologer, empowerment mentor, and the founder of CosmicRx, a spiritual wellness brand helping thousands of people align with their cosmic purpose and unapologetically own their magic. As the host of Cosmic RX Radio podcast, Madi offers weekly doses of spiritual self-care, astrological insights, and unapologetic pep talks, making healing, feel approachable, inclusive, and even fun. And as an author, she continues this mission with her upcoming book, in the Cosmic Zone, A practical, magical guide to awakening your inner wisdom and rewriting your story from the stars down. Welcome to the podcast, Madi. Okay.

Madi Murphy: 11:47

Oh, thank you. That just felt like such a beautiful, like hug and I am just so, so, so happy to be here. This is really special. I've, you know, been admiring your podcast magic for a while from afar, so this feels very momentous to be here.

Empaths Anonymous: 12:02

Thank you. Yes, and I mean, you are in part somebody who inspired me to. Step, I was always kind of like in the background, you know, helping other people with their podcasts or in media radio and like, you kind of inspired me to be like, well, no, like this is part of your journey too. And just even looking at my char and looking at my Chiron and looking at my third house, I'm like, wow. Like this was something that was meant for me. It was just, I was too afraid. So thank you because you really helped inspire me to do something like this.

Madi Murphy: 12:33

Aw, that's, that's what I love to do. That is the shit I live for. That is like, that is what gets me out of bed. And even the days when I'm like, I'm so tired.

Empaths Anonymous: 12:41

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 12:43

that's the stuff that lights me up. That's awesome.

Empaths Anonymous: 12:44

Good. Yeah, we're definitely gonna get into some of the more nitty gritties. Um, but first we're gonna get back to our grounded selves and we ask all of our guests, what is in your cup today? What are you sipping on? And what is metaphorically in your cup of life?

Madi Murphy: 12:59

Mm. Yeah, the cup of life and metaphoric. Uh, literally. I'm always sipping on caffeine nowadays. I have two

Empaths Anonymous: 13:06

Um,

Madi Murphy: 13:07

you know, under 18 months old. I'm an earth sign. I feel like caffeine and coffee is like basically our lifeblood.

Empaths Anonymous: 13:14

Basically,

Madi Murphy: 13:16

I'm sipping on a little chaos, learning how to embrace it, learning how

Empaths Anonymous: 13:20

hmm.

Madi Murphy: 13:20

with like it being messy. then, it with a dash with a sprinkle of asking for help. Right before we got this podcast, I had to just like reach out to a friend and it's, you know, it's not in my nature of Virgo, my oldest daughter.

Empaths Anonymous: 13:36

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 13:37

I, this morning I was like, I need some help today with something I'm working on, and I could do it my own, but it'll be so frustrating. So the balance of like letting things be chaotic, but also being like, you don't have to do this all alone.

Empaths Anonymous: 13:51

Mm-hmm. Yeah. You feel that deeply. We're both pretty guilty of that. Even been asking each other for help sometimes it's like, I don't wanna do that. Right?

Madi Murphy: 13:59

Right.

Empaths Anonymous: 14:00

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 14:01

that? Even like our partners, like people we have signed up to do things with, we're still like, I don't wanna bother you.

Empaths Anonymous: 14:07

Right, right. Even saying it feels like very foreign coming out of my mouth, like, I need hell,

Madi Murphy: 14:13

No,

Empaths Anonymous: 14:14

say it.

Madi Murphy: 14:14

no, I know, I know. That's why I feel like sometimes the universe will give me like breakdown, like breaking point moments. It's like,

Empaths Anonymous: 14:20

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 14:21

how many times we gotta teach you? Like, and then of course it's like, it's just more fun. It's like collaborative. It's like it's something like it. Opens the energy up, like I'm holding onto it like a pressure cooker. And then I like invite in my friend or my sister or my husband and I'm like, oh, okay, now we're just in a cool, like in a hot tub. I was in like a little tea kettle before steaming, but now we

Empaths Anonymous: 14:42

Right,

Madi Murphy: 14:42

enjoy this flow together. And every time I'm like, why do you let it get to this point before you ask for help?

Empaths Anonymous: 14:49

right. Every single time I know it's like I'm over here like hanging on for dear life. I'm like, can I just like let go of the reins a little bit? Let the universe do its thing. But let's dive into our combo because we would love for our audience to get to know you a little bit more. So can you tell us more about just your journey to Cosmic Rx, the podcast, the book, and just how you started this community where you are empowering people to live their authentic selves?

Madi Murphy: 15:18

Okay, let's do it. And I'm a yapper, so I'm gonna like just try and keep this like cliff, cosmic cliff notes. But

Empaths Anonymous: 15:24

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 15:25

You know, I think, you know, uh, with that being said, let's just start from day one of being a child. But this is the one quick thing I will say is that probably like a lot of people listening. I'm sure the two of you included. I was like that little girl. I was that little girl making the potions, you know, in the woods, talking to the moon, believing in magic, and even into the astrology or my aunt had the birthday book and I loved like crystals and building Little alters and all this stuff. You kinda intuitively um, and even well into like high school age, I, I resonated with that somewhere around college. I got it in my head. Take yourself seriously. No one's gonna take yourself seriously if you do that. And you need to go out there and you need to like be successful and get a job and, you know, I don't know, it's conditioning. And then of course, like many people maybe who might resonate with this in my late twenties, I just had a complete and utter like. tower card moment. I was set to be married and to a man who was lovely and, and very nice. I kinda have a friend from college I just, my whole body shut down. I like couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat everything. Like, felt so like, I felt so off. And up to that point, I definitely identified as a good girl, like, just like older sister, four girls. Good student. I mean, I wasn't good all the time, but my outward facing persona was very like, yes, she checks all the boxes, she just goes with the flow. Um, She like is on the life plan. And about two weeks before this huge wedding that we planned, I was just like, I can't do this and I'm gonna make everyone so upset with me, but like, I physically feel like I'm gonna die if I go through with this. And I remember just having this kind of. Big turning point moment. And I was like, you know what? I gotta do this. And luckily I had some good people in my ear, my sisters around me being like, go, this is when the real you begins, really like step into this. And of course now knowing astrology, it was a week before my Saturn return. So

Empaths Anonymous: 17:20

Oh

Madi Murphy: 17:21

isn't real, like when I look back on it years later, I was like, well, hot damn. I wish I had a. Little heads up that that was happening. Maybe I wouldn't have, it would've been a bit more context.

Empaths Anonymous: 17:33

Right.

Madi Murphy: 17:34

but thus began the journey. If anybody here's ever been through a big moment where life is like, it's like crashing out, or you're the one who presses, implode, you know, explode life button, you wake up and it's like shit. On paper. My life kind of sucks right now because everything was like, I had gotten rid of my apartment, my job, I was gonna move across the country with this man.

Empaths Anonymous: 17:55

Mm

Madi Murphy: 17:55

my parents are getting divorced. We sold my childhood

Empaths Anonymous: 17:57

oh.

Madi Murphy: 17:58

am standing there like one day to the next, a completely different person. All the things that I kind of either hid behind or identified with were just completely obliterated. But I also felt so free. And so clear like a weight was lifted. So I was like, this is something like what is this? And then that thus kind of began my journey back to like, what is my intuition? What does it mean to check in with myself versus like looking at what everyone's doing around me? What does it mean to like. Go from party Girl life who doesn't have one minute to think for herself or any, almost a fear of being alone and being by herself to just spending hours and days at and oh my gasp weekends by

Empaths Anonymous: 18:42

Right.

Madi Murphy: 18:43

or, or pulling tarot cards in Washington Square Park.'Cause that was the other thing that happened. I was like, you know what? I'm pretty much hitting rock bottom here. I have$0. I have nowhere to live. I have no job. Uh, all my friends that were friends with me and my, you know, fiance, they're all like, kind of gone and awkward. So, I guess I'll return to astrology and, and tarot, because why not? What else

Empaths Anonymous: 19:04

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 19:05

to lose? And

Empaths Anonymous: 19:06

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 19:06

was a comfort in that. And I also had a really clear feeling of voice within me that was like, Madi, you just made a pretty bold public statement that like you won't settle for. Like something that's not in alignment, you are not gonna settle for inauthentic life. So now bitch, you better make that decision. You can't go back to like

Empaths Anonymous: 19:27

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 19:28

You can't go back to like another crappy relationship. So I unintentionally gave myself this like huge level up, like a promotion from the universe. But I was like, uh, so then I really, started cultivating these tools, like I was so hungry for them and I needed them. And the only things that got me outta bed in the morning, whether it was like a yoga class again, like knowing I was gonna go to a moon circle in, you know, some really kooky new agey spot in like the West Village. And then flash forward like I just. it's like I really wanna help people like either weather kind of that moment I was in of just going through such a breakdown moment, but realizing it's actually like a breakthrough moment. Or what's crazy is like I've gone through moments like that again, that wasn't as extreme, but you know, when I started to start my first business, I had a similar, can I do this? Am I ready? Who am I to do this? Like write this feeling. And I had to go back to my tools, right? Same thing when. Publishing this book or becoming a mother, there's these moments that like these crossroads we come to time and time again. And these tools and specifically astrology has been such a lighthouse for me. Such a roadmap, such a validation and that like I like a planetary permission slip.

Empaths Anonymous: 20:44

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 20:45

I was like, I want everyone, I want everyone to have access to this. If they're open to it, if they're like looking for something like this. And this will lead us into, you know, talking about other things, starting the business. But I was like, oh shoot, astrology, as I was trying to explain to people, especially me in Manhattan, people are looking at me like,

Empaths Anonymous: 21:03

Right? Mm-hmm. Like what is, this is wrong with this girl? Like she's like completely spiraling out.

Madi Murphy: 21:09

Jupiter. What's this broad talking about? Man, this is a Dwayne

Empaths Anonymous: 21:14

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 21:14

what? What are you going on about? So thus began my Virgo journey of like, how do I make this accessible, digestible and just something that is approachable because it's such a powerful tool, but there is such a barrier to entry of it, I think.

Empaths Anonymous: 21:33

Yeah, yeah. I think that we, uh, definitely relate. I think that I had my. Kind of like crash out moment. I think like almost after my Saturn return my Saturn return was really just like discovering like, oh, like there's a reason why I've like always felt. Not right in this skin, in this life that I was conditioned to feel like I was supposed to live. Right. And so my Saturn return was like very magical. It was like coming out of it and like, kind of like you had said, making that choice of like, you know what? I'm gonna live a different life. That's when everything started to crumble because I was like, you know, you make a choice. And the universe is like, okay, well, if you want to level up, like you're gonna have to go through all the shit, like get through the muck first. To be able to get to a place where you're able to really live in alignment, you have to get all the shed, all the, the yuckies off first.

Madi Murphy: 22:26

Shed all the yuckies off or like, you know, if you think about aligning a bone, like okay, we're gonna to re-break that bone and

Empaths Anonymous: 22:34

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 22:35

we have to? And the

Empaths Anonymous: 22:36

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 22:37

hmm.

Empaths Anonymous: 22:39

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Madi Murphy: 22:41

the faint of heart this work, but

Empaths Anonymous: 22:43

Right.

Madi Murphy: 22:44

it

Empaths Anonymous: 22:44

I feel like mine was. Mine was pretty much in the middle of all of it. Yeah. I think I became pregnant at 28.

Madi Murphy: 22:52

Mm.

Empaths Anonymous: 22:53

I had my baby just before I turned 29, and then after that with all the postpartum stuff and just trying to figure out my life, I think that it was just kind of right smack dab in the middle. Like I think I turned 30 and I was like, I can't do it. It's just like you can't deny. What's happening in your body and like your, it start, your body's starting to tell you certain things. Mm. And so, yeah, I, and I didn't know a thing about like Saturn return. I didn't know that that's what, what, what happens, kind of like around that timeframe in your life. Until her and I kind of reconnected when we were back in the same state with one another in the same city. And she was like, oh yeah, that was your Saturn return. I'm like, my what?

Madi Murphy: 23:36

My what? So,

Empaths Anonymous: 23:38

Yeah. I was like, whatcha talking about?

Madi Murphy: 23:39

Up.

Empaths Anonymous: 23:40

Yeah. Right, right. Like, why are you just now telling me this? Yeah,

Madi Murphy: 23:43

it's only things that I would've been helpful to know yesterday.

Empaths Anonymous: 23:48

yeah. Exactly.

Madi Murphy: 23:49

I love what you say about the body that, it's so true though. It's like you can't deny it anymore. And

Empaths Anonymous: 23:53

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 23:53

Saturn return is, especially, you know, for women or people who really identify with feminine energy. I feel like it's easy to kind of like push things below the surface or say yes when you really mean no, or just kind of go along with something that's maybe not your. Super aligned, authentic self. And then something happens around the Saturn return where it's like everything, it's like you're holding everything below the surface and then like of a pool, right? Like I

Empaths Anonymous: 24:18

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 24:19

beach balls below the pool surface,

Empaths Anonymous: 24:21

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 24:21

it's like and they all like just go everywhere and, and you can't, right? You can't live in that like denied deniability space anymore.

Empaths Anonymous: 24:30

Right. It just feels wrong. Like you're denying your conscience and your intuition and that's like one of the, I wouldn't say scariest place to be, but you're just so unconnected. Mm-hmm.

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Empaths Anonymous: 26:18

We wanna really get into the. To the things. So we wanna say, first of all, congratulations on the release, on the release of your new book in the Cosmic Zone. And um, we just wanted to say, we love how much you break each astrological archetype into what you call the universal keys. It makes it like what you're saying so digestible, so easy, especially for someone in my case, and I'm sure a lot of our, our Feelers that are more sort. More toward the beginning or intermediate understanding of astrology. So right when you first get into it, the first key is, why not me? And us having done this podcast for a year now, that's kind of the question that we go back and forth with all the time. And so we really wanted to know how does asking that question to ourselves shift our mindset around taking risks, our purpose, and our self worth?

Madi Murphy: 27:14

lovely. Um, You know, I. I'm just so excited especially to talk to people who are creatives who are doing something, taking some kind of risk.'cause I think they really feel this like in a

Empaths Anonymous: 27:24

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 27:25

way. And whether it's starting a podcast, whether it's healing generational. Patterns, whether it's to fall in love or looking for love or, you know, whatever it is that your heart desires. There's something funny that we have inside our you know, more, call it like the monkey mind in us that I, I find everyone I've worked with, whether they're, you know, a Saturn return batty, or all the way up to like a Fortune 50, you know, CEO, is this voice that's like, oh, that, that's for everyone, but maybe not for me. Like,

Empaths Anonymous: 28:01

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 28:02

the one to do that. Why me? Right? and I think that. Asking ourselves and just putting that one extra syllable in of like, why not me? Someone's gotta make an awesome podcast for empaths and, and you know, who someone's gotta create the art that we're, you know, gonna inspire the next generation. Someone's gotta fall in love and, and make babies. Someone's gotta like, other people can do it, so why not me? And I think it's kind of also emblematic of one of my favorite. of astrology in terms of, you know, planetary poetry in motion. Each of our charts remind us that we're wholly unique. Like it's so unique. It's, it's such a beautiful like kaleidoscope of energy that is

Empaths Anonymous: 28:51

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 28:52

like unique soul's finger. But

Empaths Anonymous: 28:55

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 28:56

it's made up of the same ingredients. Everyone has the same zodiac signs, the same planets. And so it's also like we're all made up of the same stuff. So there's nothing that's something, you know, inherently better in someone else than us that

Empaths Anonymous: 29:09

Mm

Madi Murphy: 29:10

more worthy or more deserving, or more talented or whatever it is to receive and achieve whatever you want to in this life. So I love that and, and I also, you know, the book is essentially. My pep talk I got from the planets when I was studying astrology, either through my own guides, through books, through teachers, through readers and it's the information that I found myself like coaching people on over and over again. And there is something so blessedly beautiful. Beautifully activating. someone tells you, like when you say to yourself in the mirror, why not me? It's like, all right, let's go. Right? And it's just something that is, again, associated with the Aries archetype, the beginning of the zodiac wheel. We all have to get in a moment of hyping ourselves up and remembering like, we're here for a reason and we have everything that we need within us, but we have to be the one to take that first step. No one's gonna do it for us.

Empaths Anonymous: 30:06

Yeah, for sure. I think that. Kinda, when you talk about astrology being really popular right now on social media, in pop culture, I think that people think like, well, I'm just my sign, so I'm just gonna read like, what's for a Taurus rising or what's for a Sagittarius sun, and then I'm gonna go ignore everything else. But I think people do forget that like we are this incredible wheel of all of these different planets and all these different alignments. I kind of see it as like the spotlights are just in different places almost. So I, yeah, I really love, um, this idea of taking all of the archetypes and like anybody can really embody them in their own life. I think that for Aries it's just always, really interesting for me.'cause I think I messaged you a few months back and I'm like, what does it mean? Like, does it show up in your chart when you have like a, not like an issue where you don't like a certain sign, but you just you see them popping up and it just like gives you like this. Ugh. Like the ick, I'll just call it that. It gives you a little ick. Right? And for me, that's Aries. And so I, I've had to ask myself like, what kind of like triggers me or what's my, like stand in the mirror moment about Aries, like, what is it about them that kind of activates something in me. Can you like, speak to that a little bit? Like when you have something, a certain sign that you just feel like they keep popping up in your life and you feel like it's, there's a resistance to it.

Madi Murphy: 31:23

Oh, a hundred percent. Such a good question because I also do, I really hate like Zodiac sign bashing on the internet because I'm like, first of all. What, second of all, girlypop you have that in your chart somewhere, and I'm guessing it's going read you for filth. When I tell you what it is of like, why you have this, like,

Empaths Anonymous: 31:43

Right.

Madi Murphy: 31:43

be bashing the Scorpios, the Geminis, whatever,

Empaths Anonymous: 31:46

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 31:46

like something tells me you have a whole lot about going on.

Empaths Anonymous: 31:49

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 31:49

you're just, you know, again, like you said, like really self-aware that. This like, sometimes rejection we feel can be a projection of something in us that is not, is unhealed. Or maybe we don't have permission to be that. So for you you know, I have your chart pulled up and so I'm gonna speak a little bit specifically, but I'll also zoom out so we can apply to anyone listening. Is your 12th house and your 12th house can be in astrology. We're getting a little nitty gritty here, but it can be like the house of our subconscious, the house of they call it our undoing because there's something there that can be, if we don't look at it, it can be where we self-sabotage or we limit ourselves, or there's kind of like karmic psychic gunk like clog in our pipe. Right, and, but it's, it's subconscious, it's unconscious. So you're like, well, how do I work on something that I don't know is an issue? And that's again why I love astrology. It starts to bring things out. It gives us language, right? When words heal, words build worlds, they can deconstruct worlds. We can understand, okay? Oh, okay. So there's something in me, in my subconscious nature that has some kind of issue with Aries. So then we can begin to look at, even like in this book. For every archetype, for every key, we talk about what it is, you know, why it's important, when to use it. I also talk about when to shelve it, which is my very gentle way of inviting people into shadow work. of like zodiac sign. It's an octave, it's a spectrum. There's the high frequency, the high consciousness, and there's always a low frequency and a lower consciousness. And we have to know within us of like, there's no bad sign, but there can be, misuse, or dare I say, abuse of that energy, and it can all come from the same place. Like I know my Virgo energy can be harmful to me when I'm being really critical of myself and others, but that same critical eye is what helps me improve things or edit things. Right. So back to Aries. For you, there could just be something there that you look at that you're like, oh. Subconsciously, maybe somewhere along the way, maybe I didn't feel that permission to be myself. And then when I

Empaths Anonymous: 33:54

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 33:55

show up so boldly, so unapologetically to take things first to, to go for it, can feel like, oh, like how dare they do that? But it's because

Empaths Anonymous: 34:02

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 34:03

you don't have that permission. So by looking at that, having that language, you say, okay, well then medicine that I have to take here is. Go read that first key and practice doing some of those things, even if it's un actually, especially if it's uncomfortable, I would say. Right. And that's why I love the archetype work. It's all in there, but some archetypes are dormant and we don't really

Empaths Anonymous: 34:24

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 34:25

And then when we start to bring them out, and I call it like dress up for your soul, where you're like, maybe I'm not really feeling this Aries energy, but I'm gonna put on an Aries outfit for today and just go act like an Aries and see what happens. And

Empaths Anonymous: 34:36

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 34:37

Oh shoot. Okay. Like I've been sleeping on this whole 1/12 part of me. That's really powerful

Empaths Anonymous: 34:44

Right,

Madi Murphy: 34:45

and then as we heal that within ourselves, we usually feel less projection on, on other people. And we also go through a level up of attracting maybe better areas in our lives too. So,

Empaths Anonymous: 34:56

right.

Madi Murphy: 34:56

make sense? Does that

Empaths Anonymous: 34:57

Yeah,

Madi Murphy: 34:58

a few

Empaths Anonymous: 34:58

yeah,

Madi Murphy: 34:59

with that.

Empaths Anonymous: 34:59

yeah, absolutely. You hit the nail on the head for me. Like Aries are just so like abrupt and so like, ah, in your face, and it's just kind of like offputting to me sometimes. I'm like, Ooh, can you just, like, my Taurus rising is like, can you just calm down?

Madi Murphy: 35:12

Yeah.

Empaths Anonymous: 35:12

You know? So it's definitely like it's something within me that like maybe I wasn't allowed to be. Loud and in charge, and I didn't let myself be in the spotlight. And so seeing people in that, I'm like, Ooh, that just feels like kind of uncomfortable for me. Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 35:29

Exactly. Exactly,

Empaths Anonymous: 35:31

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 35:32

up Aries, because you know, I think Aries Energy, when I started my podcast, I had given it one go. And it was such a fumble. It was such a fail that I just like had to stop and put it down for a few months. I was like, that was so cringey. I, and then I kind of came back and I was like, what do I wanna share with people? And I came back to this kinda like the cosmic zone principles and I was like, let's start in Aries season because I have no Aries in my chart, minus my Black Moon Lilith,

Empaths Anonymous: 35:59

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 35:59

but it is my 10th house. So I was like, okay, I should start with my. If I'm gonna just been really public, I should start an Aries season. And also Aries season is the energy that I never felt comfortable with. I've never felt permission with, but I like love it and I admire it. It's like that

Empaths Anonymous: 36:13

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 36:13

of yours who're like, I just feel awesome that like I get to be around you,

Empaths Anonymous: 36:17

Right? Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 36:18

you. And like

Empaths Anonymous: 36:19

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 36:19

sister's in Aries, my whole life when I'm feeling a little bit insecure, I'm like, what would my sister Gabby do right now? How Hmm. Say this? it's so funny. I feel like this book is, is a love letter to all the signs, but especially for Aries.'cause like without Aries I wouldn't be here'cause I had to hype myself up and really like fake it. til you make it and like act like a bad bitch. Before I really felt like one to get all this going.

Empaths Anonymous: 36:43

Yeah. Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 36:43

I,

Empaths Anonymous: 36:44

Definitely. So maybe I'll, I'll channel that more and I just invite anyone listening to really look at, you know, maybe a sign that you just have a harder time getting along with a harder time. Maybe even just understanding how they move through life. Maybe like Madi said, go through the book and you can pre-order it. It's coming out. Well, when you're listening to this, it will be out. Yes. So you can go and buy Madi's book. But go through some of the exercises and do some self-reflection and think, you know, instead of looking at this person as we're so different, or I just don't get them, maybe tapping into like, well, what is a part of myself that I'm ignoring? So. I love that. We're gonna switch gears a little bit into something that, uh, we're both really excited to talk about and it's just so timely, uh, for what's happening right now. In the week that we're recording this, you guys, not when you're hearing it, but when we're recording it, there's a lot going on in the world. There's a lot going on in Iran, and so I think that it's really important to talk about. Social change and how we can really embody our, rebellious nature. Our, like you said, the artists. What, what do we have to share with the world that's really going to like lead the revolution? So you say that self liberation is a prerequisite for a collective liberation. How do you see authenticity as an act of service?

Madi Murphy: 38:06

Oh, I just had chills when you're talking because I'm like, this is it. Right? This is the moment. This is not conceptual. This is not theoretical. I think everyone on this planet right now could understand like things are changing. We are in some kind of revolutionary time. And because I had the beautiful foresight of astrology I kind of saw a few years ago that I was like, oh shit, we're going into like a whole new world. We're everything that we've relied on, everything that we've used to define ourselves, every cutter path that was, we were told and sold that it was safe. And, and you know, this is the way to do it, is all gonna disappear. So where does that leave us? Right? And in

Empaths Anonymous: 38:45

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 38:46

Me in some ways. It, it excited me. And I was like, there's no map. There's no map. What's the map? What's the map? And I was like, oh, the map is within ourselves. Because if there's one thing that, you know, the systems, the oppressive systems of power, whether they're, you know, extractive capitalism, whether it's patriarchal, whether it's racist, whether it's, you know, colonial powers that be, they really benefit on

Empaths Anonymous: 39:13

people

Madi Murphy: 39:13

us just falling in line. Like falling in line, doing as we're told, not feeling the courage to speak up, and also not realizing that we all have more in common with each other than the people who, you know, want to hold power over us.

Empaths Anonymous: 39:29

Mm.

Madi Murphy: 39:29

so I'm like, oh, okay. That's kind of interesting. That's kind of interesting. So I'm like, well, how do we, you know, what does that look like for each and every one of us

Empaths Anonymous: 39:37

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 39:38

really do this in an embodied way?'cause my whole thing again as a Virgo is I'm like, where does this mean real talk?

Empaths Anonymous: 39:43

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 39:44

the Instagram quotes off of

Empaths Anonymous: 39:45

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 39:46

you know, substack, like the where, oh, like

Empaths Anonymous: 39:49

Right.

Madi Murphy: 39:49

things are happening. I'm like, no. Okay. So I'm like, if you can learn to heal yourself, you're going to usually. Most of the time want to help other people heal themselves.

Empaths Anonymous: 40:03

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 40:04

If you have permission to live in your joy, then why wouldn't you want someone else to live in their joy? If you, you a deep, beautiful, and sacred relationship with the earth, with your body, with your community, why wouldn't you want other people too? Right? It's like heal people, heal people, like liberated people, liberate people. one of the reasons that I feel like a lot of us don't feel liberated or don't feel healed or don't feel joyful is that we don't either know our authentic selves. We don't feel like we have permission to be in that. It doesn't feel safe to do that. Or we're chasing something from the outside world that we're never gonna get that's gonna like, fill a hole. So I'm like, let's come back to ourselves first and foremost. Right? And then let's learn about like trusting, you know?'cause our intuition, our intuition is never gonna tell us. To like harm someone

Empaths Anonymous: 40:55

Right, right. Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 40:56

like that's all fear. That's so many other things. And our intuition, you know, right now, at the time of recording this, we're in Cancer season and the Cancer part of all of our charts is an intuitive knowing that we're all family, that we're all here to take care of each other, that we're all here to like, you know, kind of be in this chosen divine cosmic family and that when one of us is hurting, all of us are hurting. But it's the other things, it's the old programming. It's the like us versus you mentality. It's the indi toxic individualism that like casts us away from that. So I'm like, well, if it's right there in our birth chart to come back to that, well, like, let's all look at the Cancer part of our chart and figure out what's going on there. Right. Or our fourth house. So there's that. There's authenticity. There's learning how to feel safe. And then on the other side, there's learning how to feel free. safety and freedom. Uh, my dear friend Colin, who is a beautiful astrologer, he talks a lot about like, the role of the astrologer is offering safety and freedom, and it's like safety to be yourself, but then freedom to. Express freedom to stand up for yourself, freedom to stand up for others, freedom to make the art that is going to change our society. Whether that's actual art, whether you're you know, a, a storyteller and you make documentaries or you, you know, make music that that changes the way we think. Or if you're art is in how you parent or if your art is in how you teach people how to garden for themselves. Like we all have something to offer. And this new collective wisdom, because we're re-imagining a world from scratch.

Empaths Anonymous: 42:34

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 42:35

of the stuff that we've been intaking up to this point was not made from the best intentions. So, like I, I really believe that everyone has a role in this revolution and everyone has a unique thread to like, weave into this tapestry, it's just not gonna come from the outside world. 1, 2,

Empaths Anonymous: 42:52

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 42:52

Here you go. It's like

Empaths Anonymous: 42:53

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 42:54

inward. Do this personal transformation to hold space for the planetary transformation we're in right now.

Empaths Anonymous: 43:01

Because you can. You can just see it. You can feel it. I think that astrology is a comfort for me because it helps me understand myself and others in the world around me. And so it has, like you said, eliminated that state of fear. But I'm just like looking around and I'm seeing, you know, the ice raid, I'm seeing the war, I'm seeing the division and all these things. And while that is very. Heartbreaking and upsetting and enraging, and I think that if you're listening and you feel those things, like that's absolutely valid to be feeling heartbroken right now. I also can just see that like the systems are breaking, you know, and we're getting ready for this new world, this new society. The old just has to slough off first. And it's like sometimes things do get worse before they get better. But what I really am inspired by right now is seeing this rise of like matriarchal energy again,

Madi Murphy: 43:59

hmm.

Empaths Anonymous: 44:00

And a lot of conversations from women

Madi Murphy: 44:03

Mm-hmm.

Empaths Anonymous: 44:04

you know, like, we're just not going to like love you, like respectfully. We're not gonna put up with being treated this way anymore. I'm not gonna be silenced anymore. We can't forget our power anymore I mean, we're both wearing, we're both wearing our Beyonce shirts from Cowboy Carter tour. We wanted to be in our Virgo energy today with you. Yes.

Madi Murphy: 44:22

the Virgo Energy. I really appreciate that.

Empaths Anonymous: 44:25

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. But she's just always been like such an inspiration to me in so many different. Facets. Whether it's she's such a great businesswoman, just the mother that she is, the way that she leads us into these new ways of thinking and reminds us back of like, no, like we came from this and we're not going to let other people try to steal or make us feel small for these things. So all that to say, I, I wanna acknowledge what's happening in the world while also ridding this fear of like, we may not know what's going to happen tomorrow, but to me it's exciting knowing that we're moving into a different age, and I'm really excited to see all these people who are healers, who are, as Madi calls them, all the cosmic baddies and people that are just standing up and saying like, well, I have things to share. I think that this is gonna be a very important period in history of us sharing whatever resources that we have.

Madi Murphy: 45:24

Yes. Sharing. I love that. Sharing resources, right?

Empaths Anonymous: 45:27

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 45:28

your stories. They say like the truth dies in, in silence in the shadows. So it's like just bringing our authentic selves forward. And you know, it's very interesting what's happening in, in Iran. Like I, I was in high school for 9/11 and I remember feeling like really uncomfortable with like war and the Islamophobia that was running rampant. But at that age, I didn't really have the tools. I didn't have social media. I didn't understand myself enough to put myself out there. I would say and be privately, but I didn't really know. I was very unclear. Right. And I

Empaths Anonymous: 46:02

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 46:03

Unsafe. Now, you know, obviously I'm much older but. Knowing myself, knowing my chart, knowing the chart of what's happening collectively, and knowing that like, honey, no, like if something is wrong, you effing stand up and say something because it's the only way for you to live in alignment. And like, you know, spirituality and astrology can be used for things like manifesting, but if you're not living in alignment. What's the damn point? Like what

Empaths Anonymous: 46:29

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 46:31

a great car or a beach vacation if you're like walking around with your truth all like shoved into your heart and just

Empaths Anonymous: 46:37

Mm.

Madi Murphy: 46:38

know, feeling this, this feeling of yeah, just not living in your full expression. And

Empaths Anonymous: 46:43

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 46:44

and I think there is such comfort in, I just wanna validate what you said, like I don't. I don't know the future with astrology, but you can see the cycles and the patterns. Like having the biggest like movie blurb of all time be like, I don't know how know the high level points of the movie, but the scenes are gonna still surprise me.

Empaths Anonymous: 47:03

Yes.

Madi Murphy: 47:04

the high level points is were not going back the way we came. This is a time of such evolution revolution and it really is gonna be a time where. The power is gonna go back to the people. But of course, to get there, things have to break all the way down.

Empaths Anonymous: 47:23

Yes. Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 47:24

are we here?

Empaths Anonymous: 47:25

Are we there yet?

Madi Murphy: 47:26

yet?

Empaths Anonymous: 47:27

Where's our rock bottom? I know we thought that we've gotten there, but I, I don't know. It just keeps going lower and lower. Yeah. but yeah, that's something that I think we kind of struggle and battle with every day as far as like, how much energy do we give to these things that are happening?

Madi Murphy: 47:47

Hmm.

Empaths Anonymous: 47:48

Far as like acknowledgement and not living in like blind privilege because it's not directly happening to us at the moment. And so I think that we try to kind of balance our focus a little bit. It's like, how can we acknowledge that these things are happening, use. Like what we have right here. A platform for good or building a community for good, right? And so we can kind of get these people that are probably feeling the same way as us together and we can lean on one another. It's part of why the revolution is necessary, because we have just, I think, kind of forgotten how to do that and like be with one another and be at peace with one another, even in the midst of like disagreements. And so that's a struggle for us. It's like how much do we really, how much energy do we put into it so that we're not making ourselves sick? Yeah. But also not ignoring the fact that these things are happening too. So, we love that. I'm really excited to get into that part of the book. With reading all the archetypes, because like we mentioned earlier, like when we focus on astrology, it's really just like, what's my, what's my stuff? What do we got going on? Right?

Madi Murphy: 48:56

right,

Empaths Anonymous: 48:57

Yeah. What, what about me?

Madi Murphy: 48:58

me for a

Empaths Anonymous: 48:59

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 49:01

A little Me?

Empaths Anonymous: 49:01

Yeah. And so I love that we are kind of bringing everything back to like a wider lens. It's like a bigger scope of things that astrology can be, not just like, what's gonna go on, like my life today? Like what's, what's gonna happen to me? You know, it's not, it's not that. It can be that, and we love that. It can be that.

Madi Murphy: 49:19

because it's all important, right?

Empaths Anonymous: 49:21

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 49:22

gonna happen to you, to you today? You know? Like, am I gonna get that job promotion? Am I gonna meet a cute boy? Like

Empaths Anonymous: 49:28

Yes. Right?

Madi Murphy: 49:29

like you said, we can't only focus on the macro.

Empaths Anonymous: 49:32

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 49:33

focus on the micro, and I

Empaths Anonymous: 49:34

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 49:34

long these worlds were separate, right? Like the spiritual self-development work and then the big like social geopolitical wor work.

Empaths Anonymous: 49:43

Yeah. Right?

Madi Murphy: 49:44

moment of like bringing it all together,

Empaths Anonymous: 49:46

Yes. Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 49:48

could say they perfected it yet.

Empaths Anonymous: 49:50

Right. No, definitely. Yeah, that's a good point. It does really feel like that. I feel like everything is like coming to a head to together, like everything's kind of relating to each other. Mm-hmm. And that's really interesting'cause I've never really felt that way at a point in history before. Maybe I just wasn't aware of it. Hmm. Or wasn't there for it, I guess. Right. Yeah. Maybe in a different life. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I guess,

Madi Murphy: 50:14

life.

Empaths Anonymous: 50:15

Yeah. Speaking. To that and how, you know, a lot of the time astrology can get watered down by like a daily horoscope

Madi Murphy: 50:23

Mm-hmm.

Empaths Anonymous: 50:24

am I compatible with this person? A lot of the time we are reading into like romantic compatibility within astrology which is great and we love that. But for us we really wanted to dive into friendship compatibility and how that kind of. Goes into how we relate to one another, how we like function with one another, and how we kind of like play off each other's astrological energies. So how can we show up more fully in our friendships with one another without people pleasing or performing?

Madi Murphy: 50:58

Mm. Well, I do, I love that, you know, you are bringing this up because it is not the usual question in astrology, and I always love that. But the two of you, you know, doing this work together, it's very much related to your, your 10th house. Because you're doing this in like a public

Empaths Anonymous: 51:12

Ooh.

Madi Murphy: 51:12

It's a sort of putting yourself out there in a, say, professional, but in a way that's like in your purpose. Broadcasting a part of you out to the world quite literally. You know, Crystina, you have a Aquarius in your, in your 10th house. So it's like, uh,

Empaths Anonymous: 51:26

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 51:26

is a lot about our friendships and our friend groups. So of course you're like working. With a friend to bring out these Aquarian, you know, things out into the world. And then for you, Danie, it's like, you have Libra in your 10th house. So a little bit of that like relationship building is always gonna be part of your career and your public self. So I just have to take a moment.'cause if astrology isn't real, then why? Because like, well, what a unique question. So I'm looking at your chart while you're talking. I'm like. Yes, of course. And that's what I always say, it's in your heart, it's in your chart. Like the things that we're

Empaths Anonymous: 51:56

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 51:57

It's there. And, and it's a big part of us and our soul wants to like actualize in this lifetime. So I just wanna say for everyone, if you have something, a question, pull on that thread. Pull on that thread.

Empaths Anonymous: 52:07

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 52:08

the two of you um, and for everyone listening about friendships well, first and foremost, I think it comes down to trusting yourself and honoring yourself. You know, and maybe not in that specific order, but the best friendships are gonna be built on you first and foremost, knowing how to honor yourself, knowing what your needs are, how to articulate them, how to advocate for them. So that way I think so many. Times in life, or at least for, I speak for myself because you know, as definitely someone who's very empathetic, very watery. I feel like

Empaths Anonymous: 52:44

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 52:45

Is like the water of earth signs. I always think things like that in my head that are so weird.'cause I'm

Empaths Anonymous: 52:49

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 52:50

and we're kind of just like, wanna help. And

Empaths Anonymous: 52:52

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 52:53

like I said, the birth order oldest. I have four daughters. I'm like,

Empaths Anonymous: 52:56

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 52:57

have always struggled with people pleasing and saying

Empaths Anonymous: 53:00

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 53:01

honestly, a lot of times it's'cause I want to like, I wanna help my friends, I wanna help my husband, my my sisters. But I think figuring out, first of all, checking with yourself of like that self-honoring knowing your needs and knowing when you feel like you're starting to, I like to call it like. You know, stepping off your throne a little bit. Like where am I starting to get oo off of my solid ground and into like that shaky space. And again, astrology can really help us understand that maybe a good spot to start would be your moon sign, because our moon sign is usually what will come out when we're feeling a little tense, a little tired, a little

Empaths Anonymous: 53:37

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 53:38

A little overextended, and we can kind of listen to that when it's a whisper instead of a roar. And it's really our responsibility to figure that out first, right? Like

Empaths Anonymous: 53:48

Right.

Madi Murphy: 53:49

Dunno if we're people pleasing, if we're right, like so I think that honoring of ourselves and then that like, that being in that, that truth and that trust, that place of like, okay, I'm gonna trust myself. That I can say this thing and express it, and again, at the whisper before a nudge, because a whisper I

Empaths Anonymous: 54:07

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 54:08

say to you, Hey, Crystina, you know, I said yes to that thing this weekend, but I'm actually feeling really burnt out. Like. I'm so sorry, but I'm gonna have to bow out. Right? And it's like, okay, can I trust myself to say that in a way where I'm not just like F Crystina, like show up and just be huffy puffy the whole time. And then being like all like bitter and weird and it's like, okay, can I trust myself to express it? And can I trust Crystina to. Receive it and then trust her if she's upset to say it back to me. Because I think the worst thing that can get into friendships is when we're just not being honest with each other. It sounds so funny, but like,

Empaths Anonymous: 54:41

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 54:41

True. It's like, well, I'm saying yes when I mean no. And so

Empaths Anonymous: 54:44

Right.

Madi Murphy: 54:45

up on a weird, passive aggressive, so then she gets a little weird back or then it's like, and something starts to build there. And I always think about something that's helped me in my friendships in my sisterhood. My place of also like, you know, recovering from, as Oprah says, the disease to please just from Dr. Brene Brown. That clarity is kindness. Like being clear is kind, being unclear, is unkind. Like I have been amazed by the times in my life where I've just been really clear with people I love and. Like, I can't do that. And they're like, great, awesome. Good for you. Whereas when I'm like, I think I can, but I can't, but maybe I will. Okay, I will. But like, I'm gonna be really tired. I'm gonna, and it's like, well, and now all of a sudden I'm not really telling. Right. I'm being

Empaths Anonymous: 55:30

Right.

Madi Murphy: 55:31

And then

Empaths Anonymous: 55:31

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 55:32

lot of. Confusion and miscommunication. And I think like that's where hurts and wounded and, and space comes in. So I think, yeah, like knowing how to honor yourself. And also we know we can take much better care of our friends. We know how to take care of ourselves and then just cultivating this trust. And a big foundation of that is like, is that clarity. Clarity as kindness and trust me, like practice it. Every time I do it, I'm like, this is not gonna work this time. I can't say this thing. I can't. I'm kind, you're being nice when you say it, but I'm like, I can't say no. They're gonna be so mad at me. And then

Empaths Anonymous: 56:04

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 56:05

cool. Thanks. Thanks for

Empaths Anonymous: 56:06

Thanks for telling me. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 56:08

can move on.

Empaths Anonymous: 56:10

Right. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 56:11

Right.

Empaths Anonymous: 56:12

something I'm like challenging myself too with right now.'cause like I. am a Cancer moon. I have very big emotions and when I feel a little bit backed into a corner, a little bit burnt out, I get, I get the crab claws out and I'm like, Ooh, I don't, I don't like that. You know, like looking in the mirror. I'm like, I don't. That's not how I wanna, like, treat people that I love. So being a lot more clear. So I love that. So looking at the 10th house, looking at your moon sign, um, is there any other placements that you think are like really significant in, um, I don't necessarily wanna say compatibility, but like really calling in like those soul friends?

Madi Murphy: 56:52

Mm, absolutely. Yeah. So, um, look at your 11th house'cause it might unlock for you what you need or what you look for in your friendships, in your groups. But yeah, your moon sign, and I always like to say. yourself, but also if you really wanna be a really good friend, like get to know your bestie's Chiron Get

Empaths Anonymous: 57:10

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 57:11

wounded healer because it's going to come up all the time. Like we never, we're never done with our Chiron. We never like graduate and it like disappears from our chart. And I love it. Everyone has it. Beyonce has it. I think about that all the time. I'm like. Bitch. Beyonce has a Chiron. We

Empaths Anonymous: 57:27

Ooh.

Madi Murphy: 57:28

We are born

Empaths Anonymous: 57:29

Right,

Madi Murphy: 57:30

our job

Empaths Anonymous: 57:31

right,

Madi Murphy: 57:31

transmute that wound into our

Empaths Anonymous: 57:33

right.

Madi Murphy: 57:34

our job to take the medicine that we need and then maybe make that medicine in some way, again, whether it's in our art or our friendships or an actual healing practice or whatever it is. And then. it's like such a gift to know someone who loves Chiron because you'd be like, mm, baby, your chiron's showing a little bit honey, like, bestie, like you're feeling that wound, or you're overcompensating or you're in a place of avoidance because you know, your, your Chiron and Leo is telling you that you don't deserve to have fun and play, or that you're not special enough to take up space for yourself. Sorry, I'm

Empaths Anonymous: 58:08

That's, that's great. We have the same one.

Madi Murphy: 58:11

I know I'm not, I'm like, I'm like trying to speak. and you guys have both have beautiful, like, you know, Crystina, yours is the fourth house of your home, your family, and your roots, and Danie yours is in your eighth house, of which is like our, our subconscious, our, our feminine, our Kundalini energy, our, so it's like those are very tender spots to have Chiron. And so you can kind of just hold a beautiful mirror to each other. Or reminder, and even that's why I love astrology sometimes it's just the context of like, you're not crashing out because you know you did something or messed up your life. You're like, oh, your Chiron just got like that little tender nerve just got hit by the universe. But when that happens, it's the moment to like go deeper, to sit with that, to let yourself feel it, to heal it, to then see like what does it wanna reveal to you? Because like Chiron is also the key, like we talked about before. You could ignore all of this, but you'll feel like that's what I call like the comfort zone In my book, it's like you don't have to do this work. There's a lot of people out here who don't do this kind of work, but you will feel disconnected. You'll feel disconnected from your life force energy, from your vibrancy, from your magic, from your joy. And like, we don't want that. Hello? So it's a great moment of like, Hey baby, like I know you're feeling this right now, but let's sit with

Empaths Anonymous: 59:25

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 59:25

Let's see what's coming up. Remember, it's not just you with your Chiron, this is part of your divine design. And like even if it's kind of scary, even if you don't want to, and you can also don't have to do it. You can take a nap and then do it. But like, can we

Empaths Anonymous: 59:35

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 59:36

go right into that Chiron and Leo instead of running away from it and just. See what happens. Right. And I'm right

Empaths Anonymous: 59:42

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 59:43

your hand every step of the way. Right. Like, and, again, we'll do it and then together we can go get a little, a little cocktail. Go have a

Empaths Anonymous: 59:52

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 59:52

We can go do something. We can watch a Netflix show. Like we don't have to be in it forever. But can we just do one

Empaths Anonymous: 59:56

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 59:57

Chiron and Leo right now?

Empaths Anonymous: 59:59

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, let's tap in. Yeah. We love. Talking about friendship. We are two girlies who have always prioritized friendship in our lives. Maybe even to like, I wouldn't say our detriment, but we've, uh, we both have had experience of like, we give, give, give, give, give so much in our friendships. Um, and I think that even just within each other we've been able to like hold each other and balance each other in that way. So we love talking about it. I mean, you guys love hearing about it and. Engaging with friendship, content. So we really wanted to take that lens with it.'cause it's really not something that I hear a lot on social media or podcasts is like talking about astrology when it comes to your friendships and showing up for yourself so you can show up better for your friends.

Madi Murphy: 1:00:48

Yeah, because that's who's with us like forever.

Empaths Anonymous: 1:00:51

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 1:00:52

and you're so right. I was like, really? When you were asking the question, was almost like sad. I was happy. I was like, oh, but no one ever asked me about this. Like, and it's so true. Like my, you know, your friends that are the ones who are there with you through so many things, and also likewise. The few like friend breakups I've had in my life, those are the ones that haunt me way more than any like men that I've broken up with. So

Empaths Anonymous: 1:01:14

Right. I forgot about them.

Madi Murphy: 1:01:15

yeah. Yeah. Who

Empaths Anonymous: 1:01:18

I forgot all about them, but I can still remember the person that I like lost in a friendship, you know? Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 1:01:24

a hundred? No, a hundred percent. And I think now more than ever, you know, when we talk about community, we hear that we're starting to hear that word a lot more online. It's part of the Pluto and Aquarius moment we're in.

Empaths Anonymous: 1:01:36

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 1:01:37

But like your community is obviously like your community, whether it's a community of similar people with identities, you know, that are, are similar to yours or your actual like geographical corner of the world, but your community is like. It's your friends, it's, it's the people who you can lean on. The people who you can be like, okay, like to get on my own. This is way too much, but together we've got this, whether we're taking down the empire or just having a few like sacred giggles blowing off some steam. Right?

Empaths Anonymous: 1:02:08

Right.

Madi Murphy: 1:02:09

I think that's a really a great question and I think really important for everyone to hear.

Empaths Anonymous: 1:02:13

Yeah, for sure. So if you guys are wondering, you can look at. Your 11th house,'cause those are the people that you're really drawn to. For me, it's, um, Pisces, which totally checks out. I've always had this magnetism to Pisces. I could never explain it. And then I realized like, oh, I'm, I'm attracted to dreamers. I wanna be around people who are very, you know, in tune with themselves and spirituality and artistic and creative and things like that. So once I understood that, I was in one of Madi's courses actually, and once I understood that, I'm like, oh. This makes so much more sense now. I almost have, um, kind of like a guidebook. If you're looking for how do I make new friends? Maybe you've moved, maybe you've shed some old friends, whatever the case may be. It's like I looked at my 11th house and I was like, okay, these are the kinds of people that I'm really attracted to in life that I wanna be in community with and do life with. So where would those people be? And then kind of going out.

Madi Murphy: 1:03:09

Uh,

Empaths Anonymous: 1:03:10

outside, you know, touching some grass, being out in the wild and being like, you know what? I'm gonna go to this art event, or I'm gonna go to this. Um, I went to a solstice circle the other night and I met some amazing human beings. So I'm like, go to the places, look at your 11th house, and then go to those places that you really feel like those people that you're wanting to call in are going to be as well. Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 1:03:34

Ugh.

Empaths Anonymous: 1:03:34

I had to, I had to pull up time passages.

Madi Murphy: 1:03:36

Yeah, exactly.

Empaths Anonymous: 1:03:37

I'm like, where? What the F is in my 11th house

Madi Murphy: 1:03:40

oh my

Empaths Anonymous: 1:03:40

was a Scorpio. Yeah, she was

Madi Murphy: 1:03:43

Scorpio. And a

Empaths Anonymous: 1:03:44

Okay.

Madi Murphy: 1:03:44

which is beautiful because of Crystina.

Empaths Anonymous: 1:03:47

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 1:03:47

and s so you want people who are real and ride or die and not afraid of, you know, going into the, the deep stuff with you

Empaths Anonymous: 1:03:54

Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 1:03:54

Not being ashamed. You guys are so cute. You're like, yeah.

Empaths Anonymous: 1:03:58

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 1:03:58

then you want

Empaths Anonymous: 1:03:59

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 1:04:00

energy, the, you know, adventurous spirits, the, the truth seekers, but also like, let's have some fun and then then like, let's go really low. But

Empaths Anonymous: 1:04:08

Fuck it. Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 1:04:10

it.

Empaths Anonymous: 1:04:10

Nothing really matters, right? Yeah, that's, that's really me. Ball or die energy, like, do you wanna talk about the political climate of the world? Actually, I know a great place to go get an espresso martini though.

Madi Murphy: 1:04:23

And it's like a both end. Like it's a

Empaths Anonymous: 1:04:24

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 1:04:25

Like let's talk about our childhood trauma and also just like dance on a table and laugh and just have a, like a blast.'cause it's also like, it's what I were saying before, like we have to find the balance in these times. So I, I love that Also, Crystina Crystinas wanna say star student. I'm so proud of you for how you just interpreted your

Empaths Anonymous: 1:04:44

thank you. I just wanted to give it a shout out for anybody who's looking for a community, a container. You guys my, I mean, I shared a little bit on the podcast, but my life. Blew up and Madi warned me that that was gonna happen. She was like, people enter this container and things just like you get in a rocket and you go. And so I got laid off from my job. I decided I wanted to start my own business. I was going through things in a relationship where I thought that like, oh, I was gonna move forward with this person. It was like a giant halt stop sign in my face, you know? Mm-hmm. So entering this container really just like made me look at certain things and like, you know what? I came to this life to do some shit. So now I can do some shit'cause I have the support with the cosmic workbook that she gives you and you go through every single week. You look at different placements in your chart and you break down what it means for you and how to embody it. So I wanted to give that call out to people. If you really feel like that's something that you're needing right now in life, please go and look at all of the different, courses that Madi has right now, which kind of leads us to, I so hate that we have to end this time because we're just having so much fun. Mm-hmm. We could talk about this for literally hours. Yes. Um, but we just wanted to give you a second to let people know. Where they can find you, where they can find the book, and how they can connect with you more.

Madi Murphy: 1:06:05

Yeah. Well first of all, definitely connect. I am like, I love this whole community. I love new people coming in. I'm always checking my dms. I just, I love it. So it all, all are welcome. Reach out, say hi. my Instagram for my business is@thecosmicrx like prescription. And we have, you know, through there you could see all of our link in bios. Our website is CosmicRx.com. I have a weekly podcast where I do the energy report, weekly weather plus some other, you know, the astrology and the news mini episodes that are always long episodes because I talk too much. And we do guest things, so there's tons of resources there. We have tons of resources, a blog. YouTube, all that kind of stuff. If you wanna just like come to my personal, it's@iammadimurphy. Lots of pictures and my baby's my dog. And then the book is available wherever you buy books. On my Cosmic Rx we have like local bookshops but of course like the big daddies or have them, the Amazon, the Barnes and Noble,

Empaths Anonymous: 1:07:05

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 1:07:06

Also an audio book, which I'm recorded myself, which was

Empaths Anonymous: 1:07:09

Yay.

Madi Murphy: 1:07:10

but also such a big, my Chiron is in Gemini, the sign of the messenger and the communicator. So it

Empaths Anonymous: 1:07:14

Hmm.

Madi Murphy: 1:07:15

a growth edge for me because I can't even read like Yeah, like my children, like their books at night without stumbling over words. So, but it was so cool because audio books have saved my life. Like there's been so many times in life where it's like, I dunno if you even have the energy. To read a book, but I'm gonna put on this audio book and just take a

Empaths Anonymous: 1:07:32

Yeah.

Madi Murphy: 1:07:33

One step, one foot in front of the other, and I'm gonna get through this disaster I'm in, or this dark night of the soul. So I also wanted to just put it out there. I think this is a book that if that's like you I put a lot of love, I charge some energy in there, put some, like, you know, vibes into that. Yeah, then, or just come hang out on the cosmic orx Instagram with me.

Empaths Anonymous: 1:07:54

Yeah, absolutely. She posts so much good stuff. I'm always like seeing you on my timeline that I'm like, oh yes, like instant. It's like, you haven't even finished your thought yet. And I'm like, yep. Mm-hmm.

Madi Murphy: 1:08:05

immediate.

Empaths Anonymous: 1:08:06

Girl, like the video just started. You're like, yes. Yes, yes. And of course Danie are huge fans of the podcast. It's like part of our, um, Monday reset ritual, if you will. So thank you so much for all of the love and intention and education that you're just putting out into the world. You're just. Such a beautiful human and I'm so honored that I came across your path in this lifetime. So thank you so much for coming on the podcast. And for you guys listening, you guys can go and order Madi's book Dive in. I would love to hear some of, um, your thoughts and insights on this conversation, or even on the book. You can tag Madi, you can tag us and be like, Hey, I read this, or I heard this on the podcast and it made me go down this little loophole and this is what I'm discovering. So. We love to have those kind of conversations with you. I know Madi would too, but until next time you guys, we will talk to you later.

Madi Murphy: 1:09:00

Bye.

Empaths Anonymous: 1:09:00

Bye.